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Greathouse Point FAQ / Frequently Asked Questions about Greathouse Point

« on: August 23, 2008, 02:28:00 PM »

In this topic we would like to offer some introductory answers to frequently asked questions about Greathouse Point, the Greathouse Cousin Network, and our forum, the Greathouse Research Guild.

Greathouse Surname DNA Project / DNA Heritage: DNA Patent Discount

« on: August 15, 2008, 08:00:53 PM »

Hello Greathouse Cousins,

I just received the following announcement from DNA Heritage about their, "DNA Patent Discount"

If you are Greathouse male who would be interested in participating in our Greathouse DNA Project, this is a really great discount.

For any who would like to take advantage of this discounts before August 31, 2008, please fill out the application form to join our DNA project at DNA Heritage available here:

http://www.dnaheritage.com/surnameform.asp?GroupUnique=442944839&Surname=Greathouse

If you have any questions about our DNA project, please let me know by replying to this topic or by email at: rick@greathouse.us

Thanks,
Rick

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DNA Heritage: DNA Patent Discount

Due to our success in battling a patent claim, which would have limited anyone using their Y-chromosome for tracing their own surname, we are celebrating by opening a bottle of champagne and also providing a large discount off of our Surname DNA test.

   Full Surname DNA (Y-chromosome STR) tests will all be at the low price of $169.

New orders:
To get the reduced-price test, place an order either through the main order form or through your own Surname Project form.

All full, 43-marker orders placed before August 31st 2008 and returned within 4 weeks (29 Sep 2008) will be at the $169 price.

Existing orders:
Additionally, if you have already ordered a test but not yet returned your sample kit then we will provide this special price of $169 for all full 43-marker tests if you return your sample kit before August 31st 2008.

Greathouse Surname DNA Project / Family Tree DNA: Sizzling Summer Sale

« on: August 15, 2008, 07:41:23 PM »

Hello Greathouse Cousins,

I just received the following announcement from Bennett Greenspan of Family Tree DNA about their "Sizzling Summer Sale".

If you are Greathouse male who would be interested in participating in our Greathouse DNA Project, these are really some great discounts. For any who would like to take advantage of these discounts before August 31st, 11:59PM CST, please fill out the application form to join our DNA project at Family Tree DNA available here:

https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=P55591&special=true

If you have any questions about our DNA project, please let me know by replying to this topic or by email at: rick@greathouse.us

Thanks,
Rick

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Dear Group Administrator,

In June, Family Tree DNA ran our most successful promotion ever, in which we offered a significant discount on many of our test upgrades.

Now that our lab has had time to process the high volume of orders generated by that promotion, we are ready to challenge the record that we set in June by returning to you with our “Sizzling Summer Sale.” This time, the promotion is geared towards bringing new members to your projects by offering the following big incentives:

Y-DNA12 orders include a FREE mtDNA test (Y-DNA12+mtDNA promotion price of $99; normally $189)
Y-DNA25 orders include a FREE mtDNA test (Y-DNA25+mtDNA promotion price of $148; normally $238)
Y-DNA37 orders price REDUCED to $119 (normally $189)
Y-DNA37+mtDNAPlus orders price REDUCED to $189 (normally $339)
Y-DNA67+mtDNAPlus orders price REDUCED to $288 (normally $409)
mtDNAPlus price REDUCED to $149 (normally $189)

This promotion goes into effect immediately and will be available until August 31st, 11:59PM CST.

We would also like to make you aware of a change in shipping costs. Since our inception we never increased our shipping charge, even though in the meantime USPS has increased its rates 6 times. For that reason, our shipping cost will increase by $2, effective immediately. We appreciate your understanding.

As always, thank you for your continued support!

Family Tree DNA
Best Regards
Bennett Greenspan

General Discussion / Copyright Law Regarding Derivative Works

« on: July 27, 2008, 03:43:57 AM »

Copyright Law Regarding Derivative Works

Under the law, a derivative work is defined as:

[A] “derivative work” is a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications, which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a “derivative work”.

The law further provides:

(a) The subject matter of copyright as specified by section 102 includes compilations and derivative works, but protection for a work employing preexisting material in which copyright subsists does not extend to any part of the work in which such material has been used unlawfully.

(b) The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends only to the material contributed by the author of such work, as distinguished from the preexisting material employed in the work, and does not imply any exclusive right in the preexisting material. The copyright in such work is independent of, and does not affect or enlarge the scope, duration, ownership, or subsistence of, any copyright protection in the preexisting material.

As indicated above, the copyright law provides that the creator of a derivative work that is not an infringement of the underlying work is the owner of rights of copyright in that derivative work, but does not acquire any rights to the underlying work. However, the creator of that derivative work must have created the derivative work with the authority of the copyright proprietor since the copyright proprietor of the underlying work has the exclusive right to make derivative works, as discussed above.

Without any such authorization, the creator of the derivative work cannot use any part of the underlying work without the permission of the copyright proprietor in that underlying work.

John Greathouse Senior and Sarah McDade / Re: Thank you

« on: May 23, 2008, 12:31:07 PM »

Betty Renick has shared the following info:

http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=1079004&Type=Death
Death certificate for Samuel Greathouse, father of Lonnie Gay

Copy of an old contact:

Samuel Lee Greathouse (d. 1944) m. Amanda Wilson (d. 1937). Their children were Rex, Lonie and Onie Guy (twins), and Tolly. Onie Guy (8/3/1898-9/18/1971) m. Jenny Ann Sampson (3/27/1905-3/12/1980) in 1923. Their children were Samuel, Edith, Madeline, Elva, Eva, Hazel, Evelyn, and Betty.

My grandmother was Evelyn. I have hardly any information so anything would be greatly appreciated. My father grew up in Spencer which leads me to believe that is the area the family is from.

email: jellybean051901@msn.com
Anna Burgess

News and Updates / 2008 Archive of News and Updates

« on: April 19, 2008, 02:15:59 PM »

21 Dec 2008

Updated original document links to Footnote.com:

Mifflin, PA - Greenwood Township Assessment Records for 1799, 1802, 1803, 1804a, 1804b, 1805, 1807, 1811, 1812, 1813, 1814a, 1814b, 1815a, 1815b and 1816, transcription available.

Updated the following report:

Conflicting Timelines of William Grotehouse/Groathouse of Northampton and Mifflin County, PA vs William Greathouse Junior of Bedford County, PA and Harrison County, VA

Added the following articles to the Family of Herman Groethausen:

Daniel Greathouse and the Yellow Creek Affair. Reproduced with permission from the book The Stulls of ï¿½Millsboroughï¿½ A Genealogical History of John Stull ï¿½The Millerï¿½ Pioneer of Western Maryland, by Chris H. Bailey, Vol. 1, pp. 249-256, privately published, 2000.

"The Stulls of Millsborough", Special Offer from Chris Bailey.

25 Oct 2008

Added the following research report to Family of David Greathouse and Pensillah Goodwin:

David Greathouse ca 1770 to 1839

Added the following to our collection of Articles and Manuscripts:

"Stackhouse Notes", Doug Knox.

18 Oct 2008

Revised the following research report found in the Family of Herman Groethausen to add a statement that qualifies the father/son relationship between John Greathouse, who married Ann Cain? to his father, Gabriel Greathouse:

John Greathouse and Catherine Benigar - Harrison, VA to Roane, WV

4 Sep 2008

Added the following research report to Family of John and Sarah McDade Greathouse.

John Greathouse Senior, Estate Settlement, Roane, WV - Jul 1866

3 Sep 2008

Added the following research reports to Family of Herman Groethausen:

Stulls of Millsborough, Chris Bailey, digital copy online at: Family History Archives

Daniel Greathouse: Yellow Creek Massacre [PDF]

1 Sep 2008

The following additions and updates were completed:

As of September 1, 2008, "Guild Greathouse" is the new name for our group, retiring the "Greathouse Cousin Network" and the "Greathouse Data Exchange". Also the name of our forum has been changed to "Guild Greathouse Forum".

Added updated "About Us" with new article about the History of Guild Greathouse & Greathouse Point.

Added new "Join Us" page which now includes everything necessary from the "Mailing List" page, retiring the "Mailing List" page.

Revised navigation menu to support those changes.

23 Aug 2008

Added the following research report to Family of Herman Groethausen:

John Greathouse and Catherine Benigar - Harrison, VA to Roane, VA

4 Jun 2008

Happy 10th Birthday... Greathouse Point!

24 May 2008

Added new section for our recently acquired original source document collection on William Grotehouse of Miflin, PA to Family of Herman Groethausen:

Mifflin, PA - Greenwood Township Assessment Records for 1799, 1802, 1803, 1805, 1807, 1811, 1812, 1813, 1814a, 1814b, 1815a, 1815b and 1816, transcription available.

Mifflin, PA - Quarter Sessions
Apr 1796, Apr 1797, Nov 1797, Nov 1798, Aug 1799, ? 1800, Aug 1800a, Aug 1800b, Aug 1801a, Aug 1801b, Aug 1801c, Aug 1801d, Aug 1801e, Aug 1802a, Aug 1802b, Apr 1803a, Apr 1803b, Aug 1803a, Aug 1803b, Aug 1803c, Nov 1803a, Nov 1803b, Nov 1803c, Aug 1804a, Aug 1804b

Extract - Susquehanna and Juniata Valley History

Mifflin, PA - Grantor/Grantee Deed Records - available soon.

Mifflin, PA - Estate Records - available soon.

10 May 2008

Added the following photos to our Headstone Photo Gallery:

James Greathouse, headstone found near Athens, OH.

Sarah Greathouse, headstone found near Athens, OH.

Margaret Ellen Greathouse, She was buried in Pleasant Grove Cemetery, near Abbott, AR.

William A. Hartsell, buried in Cedar Grove Cemetery near Boothe, Scott County, AR .

James M. Hartsell and Mamie E., buried in Pleasant Grove Cemetery near Abbott, AR.

Updated the biographical sketch of John Greathouse Junior.

Added new section to our Library for Genealogical Helps with the following articles:

Genealogical Research | Tips and Links by Betty Renick

Moved Genealogical Standards by NGS to this new section.

Added a new section for Greathouse family research in Europe to our Library:

Moved our Families von Grotthuss and von Grothusen collection to this new section.

Added translation of Das Rittergut Grotenhus (Das Manor Grotenhus), submitted by Calvin Greathouse.

6 May 2008

Added timeline chart, Conflicting Timelines for William Greathouse Junior of PA/VA, to our research on the family of Herman Groethausen.

Added the following documents to Court, Land and Probate Records:

Deed - John Vanhoosen, Heidelberg, Lancaster, PA

Land Patent - Jacob Greathouse, Anson, NC [PDF]

Land Patent Abstract - Jacob Greathouse, Anson, NC [PDF]

Added photos from Don and Linda Birgel's trip to Germany in 2006 where they met Jan Grothauzen of Venlo, Netherlands.

Birgel Trip to Germany

Added a collection of documents about Charles Franklin Greathouse and his family, a descendant of John and Sarah McDade Greathouse, submitted by Greg Snow.

Charles Franklin Greathouse [PDF]

19 Apr 2008

Added manuscript, "A Partial History of the Greathouse Family in America" by Captain Jack Murray Greathouse, shared with permission from Washington County Historical Society, Fayetteville, AK.

Added collection of biographical sketches for the family of John and Sarah McDade Greathouse and Early Greathouses in America submitted by Betty Renick.

Added collection of church records submitted by Vivian Taylor.

13 Apr 2008

Rebuilding Our Family Databases

About ten years ago, Frank Neher volunteered to collect Greathouse family data from anyone who believed they were a descendant of a Greathouse ancestor. Pat Greathouse volunteered to head the mailing list where ideas and theories were shared. In March 1998 along with Rick Greathouse, they founded Greathouse Point, as a website where their Greathouse family research would be shared with others. At that time, it was difficult to easily find original sources, so the family databases were compiled based on donated family histories. Some were accurate; some were not.

We regret that Frank and Pat didn't live long enough to see some of the excellent resources now available to document and prove or disprove our information.

Because our original databases were built on sources that are considered to be weak by today's genealogical standards, we have removed those databases from Greathouse Point.

All family line databases are being rebuilt, using sound and proven genealogical standards, along with better primary and secondary source documents.

When we feel confident that we have documented as much as possible, the lines will be reposted here at Greathouse Point.

We need your help and your source documents to make this effort a success. If you can contribute documentation or you would like to join the team of researchers who have undertaken this task, please contact us at Research@Greathouse.us .

We are guiding Greathouse Point into being a source of documentation, not speculation. We want anyone who encounters this site to feel confident that they have the best possible information to validate their Greathouse family lineage.

News and Updates / 2007 Archive of News and Updates

« on: April 19, 2008, 02:14:36 PM »

5 May 2007

* Updated family reports for John Greathouse of Virginia. This family's reports now contain information on 1426 individuals within 506 families.

28 Apr 2007

* Added "Johann Adolph von Grothausen - Order of the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem - Balley Brandenburg" to the Articles and Papers section of our Library.

3 Mar 2007

* Updated family reports for John Greathouse of Virginia. This family's reports now contain information on 1373 individuals within 491 families.

22 Feb 2007
West Virginia History Hero - Carol Board
History Hero Award presented to Carol Board

History enthusiasts gathered on Thursday, Feb. 22, in the Norman L. Fagan West Virginia State Theater of the Cultural Center for the awards ceremony that kicked off a successful day of celebrating West Virginia history. First Lady Gayle Manchin was assisted by Dr. Robert S. Conte, chairman, and Dr. Kenneth R. Bailey, vice chairman of the West Virginia Archives and History Commission, in presenting History Hero awards to 52 individuals from around the state for their grassroots-level contributions to the preservation, promotion and perpetuation of the stateï¿½s rich history. City, county and state historical, preservation and genealogical groups and museums provided nominations for the awards. A complete list of this yearï¿½s recipients, along with a brief explanation of their contributions, is enclosed.

Carol Board, member of the Roane County Historical Society since 1993, has served as treasurer and co-chairman of the Roane County Genealogical Fair, and chaired Roane County's Sesquicentennial Committee in 2006. During the Black Walnut Festival, this committee sponsored an essay contest for county school children, sold commemorative baskets, sponsored a float, and held a county birthday party. It also installed in the courthouse plaques of all officials elected since the county was formed. To preserve a fifty-year-old newspaper, Board cut and pasted articles into a book sold by the Roane County Historical Society.

Nominated by Roane County Historical Society, Inc.

Carol,

We Thank You for all of your hard work and we congratulate you for receiving this much deserved and prestigious award.

Greathouse Point Board
Lynn Leonard, Sandy Taylor and Rick Greathouse

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18 Feb 2007

* Updated family reports for Jacob Greathouse of Georgia. This family's reports now contain information on 2614 individuals within 961 families.

15 Feb 2007

* Added a new cemetery to our Gravestone Photo Project:
Macedonia Cemetery, IL

10 Feb 2007

* Added new Library archives section for Landmarks - A collection of information about various landmarks and other locations that bear the Greathouse surname.

5 Jan 2007

* Added new Libary archives section for Articles and Papers - scholarly works, previously published and unpublished relating to Greathouse family history.
* Added "Bielefeld: German Home of Herman Grothaus" to the new Articles and Papers section of our Library.

News and Updates / 2006 Archive of News and Updates

« on: April 19, 2008, 02:11:28 PM »

22 Dec 2006

Updated family reports for John Greathouse and Catharina Haack. This family report now contains information on 2805 individuals within 980 families.
Updated family reports for Greathouse Orphans. This family report now contains information on 1031 individuals within 398 families.

5 Sep 2006
Added a new wing to our Families section for our New German "Cousins":
The Families von Grotthuss and von Grothusen
(Familienverband der Barone und Freiherren von Grotthuss und von Grothusen)

2 Sep 2006
Added Account of Herman Groethausen's Acquisition of Land to the Probate Records section of our Library.

4 Jun 2006
Happy Birthday... Greathouse Point!

On Sunday, 4 June 2006, we will be celebrating the 8th Birthday of Greathouse Point.

Greathouse Point has become what it is today because of the cooperation, teamwork and the mutual goals shared by all the members of our Greathouse Cousin Network.

Greathouse Point is and will continue to be a place for the entire Greathouse family to share the research we have gathered through the contributions made by the members of the Greathouse Cousin Network.

Greathouse Point can only be as great as YOU, our contributors, make it. We hope each Greathouse "Cousin" will find new information here and will in turn contribute to our efforts.

We would like to thank you, our "Cousins", for all of the help you have given us over the last 8 years. We look forward to working with you, in the future, to accomplish even more successes in our research of the Greathouse family.

News and Updates / 2005 Archive of News and Updates

« on: April 19, 2008, 02:05:26 PM »

9 Aug 2005
Updated family report for John Greathouse and Catharina Haack. This family report now contains information on 2740 individuals within 956 families.
Updated family report for Michael Greathouse and Debbie Snawder. This family report now contains information on 266 individuals within 89 families.

6 Aug 2005
Updated family report for John Greathouse and Catharina Haack. This family report now contains information on 2750 individuals within 954 families.
Updated family report for Jacob Greathouse of Georgia. This family report now contains information on 2619 individuals within 963 families.

30 Jul 2005
Updated family report for Michael Greathouse and Debbie Snawder. This family report now contains information on 264 individuals within 88 families.

20 Jun 2005
Our Harmon Greathouse Sr. and Mary Ann family line has been split into the following family lines:
Harmon Greathouse 1750 and Mary Ann
Harmon Greathouse 1787 and Mary Ann

10 May 2005
Greathouse Point launches a DNA project.

8 Mar 2005
Added Site Map

26 Feb 2005
Updated family databases for: John Greathouse of Virginia, Michael Greathouse and Debbie Snawder, Solomon Greathouse and Catherine Little.
Moved Memorial for Frank Neher to our Memorials section in our Greathouse Library
Added the following articles to Frank's memorial: Meet the WAGS Workers, Obituary, In Memorium, Remembering "Lucky Frank Neher".
Added Biography for Ray Greathouse, who was a WW1 US Army Veteran and a Forest Ranger in the Big Snowy Mountains of Montana. Also a photo of Greathouse Peak, which was named after Ray Greathouse, was added on the home page and the biography page for Ray Greathouse.

25 Feb 2005
Updated the family database for: Herman Groethausen

5 Feb 2005
Updated the family database for: Greathouse Orphans

News and Updates / 2004 Archive of News and Updates

« on: April 19, 2008, 01:56:42 PM »

28 Jul 2004

Updated the family database for:
David Greathouse and Pensillah Goodwin
Solomon Greathouse and Catherine Little

10 Jul 2004

Updated the family database for:
Harman Greathouse Sr. and Mary Ann

3 Jul 2004
Updated the family database for:
Harman Greathouse Sr. and Mary Ann

30 May 2004
Updated the family databases for:
Harman Greathouse Sr. and Mary Ann
Herman Groethausen
John Greathouse Sr. and Sarah McDade

27 May 2004
Updated the family database for:
John Greathouse and Catharina Haack

8 May 2004
Updated the family database for: Herman Groethausen

1 May 2004
Updated the family databases for: Harmon Greathouse Sr. and Mary Ann, John Greathouse and Catharina Haack, John Greathouse Sr. and Sarah McDade, John Greathouse of Virginia, Greathouse Orphans

30 Apr 2004
Welcome or our new and improved Greathouse Community, our online forum, is now open. Enjoy!!!

04.17.04 :: 2004 Greathouse-Pursley Family Reunion
Greathouse-Pursley Family Reunion Newsletter

04.03.04 :: Updated the family databases for:
John Greathouse and Catharina Haack
John Greathouse Sr. and Sarah McDade

03.06.04 :: Added a section for Deeds to our Library and land ownership information for Harmon Groethausen's Homestead.
Harmon Groethausen's Homestead

03.05.04 :: Added a newspaper article to our Biographies section for:
Sarah Elizabeth "Sallie" Tanner Greathouse Tucker 114 Grand Children, A newspaper article from the Reedy News, July 1931. (submitted by Arletta Szabo)

03.04.04 :: Added a section for Wills to our Library and a will for:
Emory Morland Greathouse

03.03.04 :: Updated the family databases for:
John Greathouse and Catharina Haack
John Greathouse Sr. and Sarah McDade
William Greathouse and Barbara Cale

29 Feb 2004
Additions to Links page include:
Kentucky: KYGenWeb Project, Death Index: Gratehouse, Greathouse, Grotehouse, Grothaus

18 Feb 2004
Update family reports for the Descendants of John Greathouse and Catharina Haack. Updated stats for this families database:
John Greathouse and Catharina Haack
Early 1700s in Pennsylvania
9 Generations
2737 Individuals
946 Families

1 Feb 2004
Rolling out the red carpet... Welcome to Greathouse Point 2004...

Drum roll Please!... Presenting... the all new, fully updated Greathouse Point 2004.
You have read about it. You have heard about it. This is it! Our new look includes not only descendant reports but a full database. We have added the names of all the people who don't fall in the direct line, parents of spouses, grandparents of spouses. We have months of updates added to the web site. Improvements are too numerous to name. You simply have to see it... to believe it. If we had trumpets, we would play them to herald this event!

We hope you will enjoy the new and improved Greathouse Point.

--Rick Greathouse

Obituaries/Memorial Project / Obituary | Geoge A. Witter

« on: April 12, 2008, 03:37:42 AM »

Submitted by: Pat Schulze

MRS. GEORGE A. WITTER
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Another honored Belton and Bell County pioneer has been called home to the World Beyond.

Saturday afternoon at 5:00 o'clock death came to relieve Mrs. George A. Witter from the severe suffering which she had endured for several weeks.

Mrs. Mary Frances Greathouse Witter was born in Troupe county, Georgia, September 8, 1843. Her marriage to Mr. Geo. A. Witter was solemn ized at West Point, Georgia, November 11, 1859. In 1870 Mr and Mrs Witter came to Bell County to make their home residing for ten years near Heidenheimer and coming to make their home in Belton in 1880.

Mrs. Witter was a devoted member of the Baptist church and in the active years of her life she was a faithful worker in ist every department. She was the daughter of a Baptist minister and united with the church at an early age.

The home was the center of life with Mrs. Witter. Devoted to her children and husband nothing was left undone in the home that would give them hoy or comfort.

She was always ready to help the less fortunate. Whenever ssickness or misfortune touched those about her she was always present to give cheerful, practical and efficient aid.

She found many ways in which to give pleasure to everyone with whom she came in contact.

From the work and the ranks of the Daughters of the confederacy she will be greatly missed.

Her admiration for the handiwork of God as shown in her passionate love for flowers. They responded to her love and her home garden was a bower of flowers many times when others had failed entirely. There is probably not a lady in this state who has grown with the labor of her own hands as many beautiful flowers as did Mrs. Witter.

It was indeed fitting that the floral offerings placed with loving hands about her last resting place should have been the beautiful ones they were, and so abundant.

The funeral services were held at the family home in North Belton, Sunday afternoon conducted by Rev. M. Andrews, pastor of the First Baptist church of Temple, assisted by Rev. J.E. Siceloff, pastof of the First Methodist church of this city.

The body was tenderly and reverently laid to rest in North Belton cemetery.

Mrs. Witter is survived by husband, son and daughter; Will Witter of this city and Mrs. Fred Pryor of Austin; also seven grandchildren and three great grandchildren; a brother R.H. Greathouse of Quanah and a number of relatives.

A number of friends were present from temple and other points in the county. Among those from out of the county were Mr and Mrs E.H. Perry and F.G. Smith of Austin; Mr and Mrs Raymond Goddard of Waco.

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My notes: there were 8 grandchildren....my mother and her sister and three brothers, children of deceased son George Witter and Jesse Porter Witter, and Wilma, Elizabeth and Mary, daughters of Will Witter.

Mary Frances Greathouse Witter born September 8, 1843 died January 6, 1923

John Greathouse and Catharina Haack / MOVED: Greathouse/Vandale pictures

« on: April 09, 2008, 05:20:21 PM »

This topic has been moved to John Greathouse Senior and Sarah McDade.

http://forum.greathouse.us/index.php?topic=323.0

Herman Groethausen 1670 / Re: John (Johanne) Greathouse 1756

« on: March 30, 2008, 12:20:49 AM »

Please see the following topic on "Correction - Marriage of John Greathouse and Pheby Thompson":

http://forum.greathouse.us/index.php/topic,344.0.html

Thanks,
Rick

Herman Groethausen 1670 / Correction - Marriage of John Greathouse and Pheby Thompson

« on: March 30, 2008, 12:18:46 AM »

Hello Cousins,

There is a correction that we need to make to our information on the first marriage of John Greathouse to Pheby Thompson. Louise Franklin Johnson and others have suggested that this marriage is an error. So we would like to share some additional documentation with you, which provides significant evidence to disprove the first marriage of John Greathouse to Pheby Thompson.

This information is being shared with our mailing list and in our forum, to request that you share any additional information you have supporting or contradicting the work described below.

We will be using the following sources to disprove this marriage:

1) "History of Harrison County, West Virginia: From the Early Days of Northwestern Virginia to the Present." Henry Haymond. 1910. Acme Pub Co. Digital copy online: http://books.google.com/books?id=J4QFK5LO-boC&printsec=titlepage#PPA451,M1 .

2) "Marriage Return of Rev. John W. Loofbourow." Harrison County, VA, 1793. Digital copy online: http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=38854&Type=Marriage .

3) Email from Diana Johnson to Rick Greathouse, Subject: "Correction - Marriage of John Greathouse and Pheby Thompson", 20 Mar 2008.

4) "Federal Supply Tax of the County of Bedford, for the Year 1783", Pennsylvania Archives, Series 3, Volume XXII, Page 252. Digital copy online: http://www.footnote.com/viewer.php?image=3076932 .

5) "Federal Supply Tax of the County of Bedford, for the Year 1785, Turkeyfoot Township.", Bedford, PA GenWeb Project. Digital copy online: http://www.pa-roots.com/~bedford/taxlists/tl1785turkey.htm .

Currently in our database at Greathouse Point, we have the following listed for the first marriage of John Greathouse, son of William Greathouse and Barbara Schutz:

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Johannes married Phoebe THOMPSON 1 about 1774 in , Harrison, Virginia (Later West Virginia).

Marriage Notes: Harrison County, VA Marriages
Call #: #975.5 V2mc

Marriage: Sherry Scoresby forwarded by Pat Greathouse.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 78 F i. Susannah GREATHOUSE 1 was born about 1775.

+ 79 F ii. Regina GREATHOUSE 1 was born about 1777 and died after 1840.

80 M iii. Leonard GREATHOUSE 1 was born about 1779.

Leonard married Sarah PARSONS 1 on 8 Nov 1800 in , Harrison, West Virginia.

81 M iv. Michael GREATHOUSE 1 was born about 1781.

Michael married Nancy JOHNSON 1 on 10 Feb 1810 in , Wood, West Virginia.
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Some time ago, Louise had sent us copies of several documents regarding the marriage of John Greathouse and Pheby Thompson. The first document was the page from "History of Harrison County, West Virginia: From the Early Days of Northwestern Virginia to the Present." by Henry Haymond, where on Page 451 the following marriages are listed for John Greathouse and Pheby Thompson:

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April 8, 1793........John Greathouse and Pheby Thompson
April 8, 1793........John Greathouse and Milly Gillaspy
April 2, 1793........Barnabas Smith and Phebe Thompson

Source: "History of Harrison County, West Virginia: From the Early Days of Northwestern Virginia to the Present." Henry Haymond. 1910. Acme Pub Co. Digital copy online: http://books.google.com/books?id=J4QFK5LO-boC&printsec=titlepage#PPA451,M1 .
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The information contained in this book about the marriage of John Greathouse to Pheby Thompson may have been the source of this erroneous first marriage for John Greathouse, son of William Greathouse Senior and Barbara Schutz.

The second document was a copy of the original marriage return that John W. Loofbourow reported to Harrison County Court, when he registered these marriages. The information found on the marriage return folllows:

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A Return of Marriages Made by the Rev. John W. Loofbourow.

Barnabas Smith and Pheby Thompson married April 2nd 1793.
John Greathouse and Milly Gillaspy married April 8 1793.

Source: "Marriage Return of Rev. John W. Loofbourow." Harrison County, VA, 1793. Digital copy online: http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=38854&Type=Marriage .
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Diana Johnson, a volunteer at the Waldomore House Library in Clarksburg, Harrison, VA states the following:

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This error is also included in "Virginia/West Virginia Genealogical Data from Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Records" Vol 2--Dabbs through Hyslop, compiled by Patrick G Wardell, p 208,

Greathouse, John, esf 1777 Bedford Co, PA; PN ae 60 Harrison Co., VA, 1818; dd 5/14/1838; QLF states sol md Miss Gillespie 1793; QLF 1912 from desc Dora Hedges (Mrs. W Samuel) Goodwyn, Emporia, VA, states another VA RW sol John Greathouse was b 1742, md (1) Miss Thompson, and PN 1819, further both he and 1st John md same day in 1793. F-S8630 R1117

And Cochran's edition of Harrison County WV marriages did not pick up this particular marriage and neither did Morris' edition and I do not have it in my personal information of Harrison County Courthouse Marriage Records research. It is simply an error in copying by a person."

Source: Email from Diana Johnson to Rick Greathouse, Subject: "Correction - Marriage of John Greathouse and Pheby Thompson", 20 Mar 2008.
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Therefore, based on the information that was obtained from both of those documents and the information submitted by Diana Johnson, we feel that there is enough evidence to disprove that John Greathouse married Pheby Thompson on April 8, 1793.

The discovery of this evidence, of course, has led us to ask more questions about this disproven marriage, where one of the most important questions would be:

Did John Greathouse marry a first wife before his marriage to Milly Gillaspi on 8 Apr 1793?

That question can be answered with some additional evidence that has been found in the Federal Supply Tax Lists of Bedford, PA where John Greathouse, son of William Greathouse Senior and Barbara Schutz was listed as a Single Freemen in those tax lists for the years 1783 and 1785.

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Federal Supply Tax of the County of Bedford, for the Year 1783
Turkeyfoot Township

Page 250

Eakart, Frederick 100 acres, 2 horses, 3 cattle, Tax 1 .9 .9
Greathouse, William 200 acres, 3 horses, 5 cattle, 4 sheep, Tax 3 .2 .7

Page 252

Single Freemen
John Greathouse 100 acres, 1 Horse, Tax 2 .5 .5

Non-Residents
William Greathouse 150 acres, Tax 1 .0 .8

Source: "Federal Supply Tax of the County of Bedford, for the Year 1783", Pennsylvania Archives, Series 3, Volume XXII, Page 252. Digital copy online: http://www.footnote.com/viewer.php?image=3076932 .
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John Greathouse was also listed as a Single Freemen on the Federal Supply Tax List of Bedford, PA, in Turkeyfoot Township, in 1785.

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Federal Supply Tax of the County of Bedford, for the Year 1785
Turkeyfoot Township

Frederick Achor
Wm Greathouse, 400 acres.
William Greathouse, 400 acres.

Single Freemen
John Greathouse

Source: "Federal Supply Tax of the County of Bedford, for the Year 1785, Turkeyfoot Township.", Bedford, PA GenWeb Project. Digital copy online: http://www.pa-roots.com/~bedford/taxlists/tl1785turkey.htm .
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Therefore, those tax lists provide us with further evidence which supports that John Greathouse may not have been married or had any children before he married Milly Gillaspi on 8 Apr 1793 in Harrison, VA.

If any of you have any questions about the information that we have provided above, please let us know, by replying to this email. If any of you have any further documentation in support of or in contradiction to the information that we have presented above, please share your research with us.

Thanks,
Rick

Herman Groethausen 1670 / Harrison County Wills: 1786 - 1831

« on: February 08, 2008, 05:00:04 PM »

Harrison County Wills: 1786 - 1831

WV Archives & History Library
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Greathouse, Gabriel

Inventory: Dated December 18, 1813. Recorded in Harrison county, W. Va., will book 2, page 8.

Appraisers: Benjamin Webb, William Haymond and John McCullough. Ann Greathouse, administratrix.

Sale Bill: Dated December 10, 1813. Recorded in will book 2, page 11.
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Greathouse, William

Will: Dated March 25, 1791. Recorded in Harrison county, W. Va., will book 1, page 3.

Devisees: Barbary wife, homestead of 200 acres her lifetime, livestock, farming utensils and household goods; John, Frederick and Gabriel, sons, 100 acres each, and John and Gabriel, two rifle guns; William, son and Mary, daughter, value of the two guns in money; Caty Hartset, daughter, good Bible to be bought, or the value thereof; and Anna Milia McCarty, daughter, five pounds to be paid for her clothes.

Witnesses: Sotha Hickman, Owen Davis and Joseph Skelton.

Inventory: Dated March 31, 1792. Recorded July 7, 1797, in Harrison county, W. Va., will book 1, page 85, and signed by William, John and Gabriel and Mary Aker.

Appraisers: William Haymond, Watson Clark and Edward Powell, with Joseph Skelton, executor.
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