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General Discussion / Vernon George Greathouse and Myrtle Kinney Greathouse
« Last post by lygross on November 24, 2009, 11:13:43 AM »
Hi, This is my first post!! I have been looking at this sight for some time and decided it is time to try and figure out ancestry line. I have My father is the late William LeRoy Greathouse and (Phyllis Jean Cunningham) of Newcomerstown, Ohio but previously WVA.  M y grandparents.. Vernon G Greathouse and Myrtle K. Greathouse is my grandparents.  I searched and got back to Solomon and I think it was Barbara (?).

Just trying to get the correct information.  I would appreciate any help you can give me.

Thank you, Lisa Greathouse-Gross
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Herman Groethausen 1670 / Abr'm Grothouser in Northampton County Militia
« Last post by Rick on August 28, 2009, 05:50:21 PM »
There is a Revolutionary War Military Abstract Card File which is available on the website of the Pennsylvania Archives, http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/archive.asp?view=ArchiveIndexes&ArchiveID=13, in which you can find several index cards for Greathouses of PA who were recorded in various militia units across PA.

In the index cards for the Greathouses of Northampton County, PA, there was a William who served in the companies commanded by John Stahl, a William who served in the companies commanded by John Stacher and an Abr'm Grothouser who served in the company of John Stahl.

For the two Williams there are multiple records for both of them. William in Stacher's company was documented from 1780 - 1783. William in Stahl's company was documented in 1778 and 1783.

However, regarding the Abr'm Grothouser... there is only one record which suggests he served in Stahl's company and that record would be the index card itself, available here:

http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/Archives/13/12/CDLOAD/revwar/0018/3078.gif

As you can see, that index card does suggest that there would have been an Abr'm Grothouser in the company of John Stahl between 1780-1783. These index cards were created in the 1960s by more than likely an underpaid government worker, so we really need to see if this Abr'm Grothouser's presence in this unit can be supported by other records.

If you look at the 1778 roster for Stahl's company in which William Grothouse was in the 2nd class and note the others in his class, you will notice that there was an Abraham Peckman in the same class as William.

1778 Stahl Company... William Grothouse and Abraham Peckman in the same class.
http://www.footnote.com/image/3420418/grotehouse/

Source. PA Archives, Series 5, Volume 8, Fourth Battalion, Northampton County Militia, Page 87.

Then if you look at the 1783 roster for Stahl's company, in which William Grothouse was in the 2nd class, you will notice that for the Abr'm in that class, his last name was noted to have been illegible. There was no Abraham Peckman listed.

1783 Stahl Company... William Grothouse and Abr'm "illegible" in the same class.
http://www.footnote.com/image/3530652/grothouse/#3530652

Source: PA Archives, Series 5, Volume 8, Fourth Battalion, Northampton County Militia, Page 360.

So there appears to be a conflict between the Rev War Index card created in the 1960s versus the PA Archives, Series 5, Volume 8 edited by Thomas Lynch Montgomery in 1902.

Until the microfilm of that militia roster can be viewed to see if the last name for Abr'm is legible or illigible, there will be a question about whether there was or was not an Abr'm Grothouser who served in John Stahl's company of the Northampton County Militia in 1783.

Except for that Rev War Military Index Card, so far, a relatively exhaustive search for Greathouse records in Northampton County, PA has failed to uncover any other records which would suggest that an Abraham Grothouser was residing or served in the militia of that area.
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Queries / Re: Greathouse born in Clarksburg, WV
« Last post by Rick on August 22, 2009, 09:11:50 AM »
Diana Johnson of Clarksburg, WV has shared the following info:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Diana Johnson <djhcgh@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Subject: Linda F's Greathouse genealogy
To: lkline@frontiernet.net


Here goes for now.
 
Okey Greathouse married Victora/ia Greathouse on 25 Oct 1906 in Doddridge Co WV.  Okey was 30 and Victoria was 23.  Both were born in Doddridge Co and living in Doddridge Co WV.  He gave the info for the marriage license.  They were married according to the marriage license "at the publick highway."

1880 Doddridge Co WV (Wm Marsh edition)

S008
James A Greathouse, 34, farmer, VA
Susan E, 28, VA
Lillie I, 8, WV
Clarence, 6, WV
Oka, 4, WV
Mary M, 2, WV

S006
Moses A Greathouse, 69, shoemaker, VA
Lucretia, 71, VA
Joseph S Adams, 22, married grandson, farmer,
Luella Adams, 22, married wife
James W. Adams, son

(James A Greathouse and Luella Adams are the children of Moses and Lucretia Peck Greathouse)

1900 Cove, Doddridge County, WV

Okey Greathouse is a boarder in the household of Elbert Moran.  Okey is 23 and single, born in WV.  His birth is listed as Sept 1876.  {Incidentally, his sister, Lillie, is also living in Cove, Doddridge}

1910 Cove, Doddridge, WV

Okey Greathouse, 34
Victora, 26
Forest, 2
Arlis, 7/12

1920 New Milton, Doddridge, WV

Okey Greathouse, 44, WV, laborer
Victora, 36, WV
Forest, 12
Arlis, 10
Byrl, 7
Maggie, 2

In 1918 Okey filled out a WWI draft registration giving this info, born 7 March 1876, tall, slender, brown eyes, gray hair, New Milton Doddridge Co WV, farming, nearest relative was Victoria Greathouse, wife, New Milton, Doddridge WV, date of registration was Sep 12, 1918, his age 42 years

Okey's father was James Greathouse who was born July 30, 1844 and died May 13, 1925 in Harrison Co WV.  He married Susan Dicks who died May 4, 18(8 or 9)6.

James Greathouse's father was Moses Greathouse who married Lucretia Peck.

Moses Greathouse's father was Gabriel Greathouse who married Mary/Nancy Hustead.

Gabriel Greathouse's father was William Greathouse (Sr.) who married Barbara Schultze.

Have not located Okey in 1930 under the name Greathouse or Dix/Dicks.  Is it possible he died in the 1920s?  Haven't located Victoria either, nor their children.
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Events, Happenings and Reunions / Genealogy Fair | 26 Sep 2009, Spencer, WV
« Last post by Rick on August 12, 2009, 11:39:55 AM »
From Johanna Nutter...

Greetings to all,

The Roane County Historical Society's annual Genealogical Fair will be held Saturday, September 26, 20009 from 9-3, at the Heritage Park Community Building, in Spencer, WV. This is the same location as last year.  Signs posted in Spencer at all major intersections will guide you to the building.

Food will be available on site through out the day.  Table rent for those wishing to sell material will be $10.00 a table.  Please let us know if you will need electricity and how many tables you need.  Tables for sharing your family history will be provided at no cost, but we need to know how many tables you will need.  You may bring your computer but the building does not have internet access.

Bring your computer, books, pictures, and memories to share with us.

Be sure and visit our website at www.wvroane.org.  We are always grateful for any material you would like to share on the website.  If you have any questions about the Fair please contact one of the following committee members.  Let us hear from you soon.

Johanna Nutter joeandjo30@wirefire.com or joe@wvroane.org
Carol Board Westfall legallady@hughes.net or carol@wvroane.org
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Queries / the Laughlin Family
« Last post by awise2late on July 06, 2009, 07:47:00 PM »
I am Gracie Laughlin, dtr. of Ollie Laughlin, granddaughter of Lem Laughlin.  Can anyone give me any information about the Laughlin line BEFORE Lem?  Any other information about the Laughlin's would also be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Queries / Re: Michael Greathouse and Rachel Husted Greathouse
« Last post by bettyrenick on May 29, 2009, 05:19:41 PM »
   Michael had a wife named Rachel, but I have personally found no
   documentation of their marriage date or of her last name.  Information I have is primarily from others, not my personal    research.
  
   My notes say that Lila Greathouse Gold (I do not know this person) has a marriage date for Michael
   Greathouse  and Rachel Hustead of 12 Oct 1792, but doesn't say where they married. Also shown is
   Michael born 1765 and Rachel 1773, dau of Moses and Sarah Goodwin Hustead/Husted.

   Her information may have come from: Taylor Heritage Book page 234:
   Michael Greathouse lived on Berry Run born ca 1765, married 12 Oct 1792 to
   Rachel Hustead, b ca 1773, the dau of Moses and Sarah (Goodwin) Hustead
   their dau Sarah b ca 1801 married Francis Goodwin
  
   Harrison County Deed Book 25, Pages 412-413 (shows name of Michael's wife was Rachel):
   This indenture made this fifth day of May in the year of our Lord eighteen
   hundred and thirty eight Between Michael Greathouse and Rachel his wife
   in the County of Harrison and State of Virginia of the one part and
   Abiga Warin of the county and state aforesaid of the one other part.
   Witnesseth that the said Michael Greathouse and Rachel his wife for
   and in consideration of the sum of four hundred dollars lawful money
   of Virginia the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged . . .
  
   A Rachel Hustead, dgtr of Moses has been shown as marrying John Beard on
   25 July 1791 Harrison Co, but WV History and Culture site shows John Beard
   marrying Mary Unsil on 25 Dec 1791.

   Marriage of John Beard and Mary Unsil, 25 Dec 1791 [last marriage on right page]
   http://images.wvculture.org/847273/00310.jpg
  
   1840 Census Harrison Co., Virginia
   Rachel Greathouse no males 1 female 60-70 yrs. (born 1780-1770)
  
   I show Sarah, the daughter of Michael and Rachel, married Francis Goodwin
   Jr. in Harrison County, VA. Marriage bond shows Francis Jr and father and
   references Sarah as "Sally" Book 3 page 249 - also lists Michael
   Greathouse as a bondsman. Date April 5, 1819 - but I did not find this marriage myself.
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Queries / Michael Greathouse and Rachel Husted Greathouse
« Last post by Katherine on May 26, 2009, 07:55:11 PM »
In looking through the site I found this:

"c. Michael Greathouse Although claimed to be a son of William, Michael is not mentioned as a son of William Sr. in his will, so there is no documentation of the relationship. A Rachel Hustead, daughter of Moses married John Beard on 25 July 1791 Harrison County, VA, and Michael Greathouse married Rachel Hustead on October 12, 1792 in Harrison County, VA. Michael is showing as head of household in 1800 census of Harrison County Virginia. Michael Greathouse owned 25 acres on Berry's Run in Harrison Co in 1838. It is said that his will was probated May 1839, Harrison County, WV Order Book number 2 page 177"

I cannot find these marriage records.  May I ask your source for the marriage information you are giving here.

From History of Harrison County, West Virginia: From the Early Days of Northwestern Virginia to the Present
By Henry Haymond
Published by Acme Pub. Co., 1910
Original from Harvard University
Digitized Sep 13, 2006
451 pages

Page 450, I find a marriage for John Beard to Mary (Unknown) 25 December 1791.  It is the only reference to John Beard as far as marriages go that I can find.

Can you please give me your source documentation for your marriages?

Thanks

Kate Reab

Researcher; Francis Goodwin family

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General Discussion / Josef Broeker Collection
« Last post by Rick on April 18, 2009, 09:32:01 AM »
We have recently received a collection of work regarding the Grothaus family in Europe from Josef Broeker.

You may read the first email we received from Josef which was in German, below:

Email from Josef Broeker to Rick Greathouse, 4 Apr 2009.

--
---------- Forwarded message ---------- 
From: Josef Bröker
Date: 2009/4/4
Subject: von Grothaus

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
 
leider ist mein Englisch nicht so gut, deshalb dieses Schreiben in Deutsch.
 
Seit etwa 25 Jahren - immer mit Unterbrechungen - forsche ich über die Familie von Grothaus.
 
Dabei kam ich in Kontakt mit mit Otto von Grotthuss aus Kronberg und auch Harry von Grotthuss aus Neuwied, der - wie ich erfahren konnte - mit Ihnen schon Kontakt aufgenommen hat.
Im Jahre 2001 fand hier in Ibbenbüren ( bei Tecklenburg) ein Familientreffen der Barone und Freiherren von Grotthuss statt.
Auf diesem Treffen besuchten wir die Orte, die die von Grothaus einst besessen hatten ( Reste der Mesenburg, Ledenburg, Krietenstein, Spyk bei Lingen.
 
Dieses Treffen bildete den vorläufigen Abschluss meiner Forschungen zur adeligen Familie von Grothaus.
 
Als ein Ergebnis konnte ich den Ahnherrn der heute noch blühenden Familie von Grotthuss ( Kurland/Livland) finden und außerdem die Genealogie der westfälische Linie von Grothaus komplett korrigieren - die  des Max von Spiessen ist total fehlerhaft.
Zur Zeit beschäftige ich mich mit dem Pozess um Krietenstein. Denn bis in die heutige Zeit wird dem Otoo von Grone der Vorwurf der Felonie = Lehnsuntreue gemacht, weshalb sein Burglehen zu Wittlage ( Krietenstein) eingezogen wurde.
Die sogenannte Grothaus Fehde mit dem Blutbad im Gehn ist die unmittelbare Folge davon.
 
Wenn Sie Interesse haben, sende ich Ihnen meine wissenschaftlich = durch Urkunden abgesicherten Forschungsergebnisse.
Zunächst eine Aufschwörungstafel bei der Osnabrücker Ritterschaft.
 
MfG  Josef Broeker
--

Translation provided by Vivian Taylor:

--
Very esteemed Ladies and Gentlemen,
     Unfortunately my English is not too good; therefore I am writing this in German.
     For perhaps twenty-five years--always with interruptions--I have been doing research on the Greathouse Family.
     In so doing, I came into contact with Otto von Grotthuss from Kronberg and also Harry von Grotthuss from Neuwied, who--as I was able to learn--had already made contact with you.
     In the year 2001 there took place here in Ibbenbueren (near Tecklenburg) a family meeting of the Lords and Ladies Grothaus. Immediately after this meeting we tried to find the places which the von Grothauses had once possessed.  (The remaining [places are] at Mesenburg, Ledenburg, Krietenstein, [and] Spyk near Lingen.)
     This meeting organized [shaped, formed] the preliminary conclusion of my research on the noble Grothaus Family.
     As a result I was able to find the ancestors of the Family von Grotthuss still flourishing today ([in] Kurland/Livland) and in addition to correct completely the genealogy of the Westphalian line of Grothaus.  The [research] of Max von Spiessen is totally incorrect.
     At the time I was occupied with the POZESS [not in my dictionary; maybe "possessions"] around Krietenstein. From then up to the present time I have been absorbed with Otoo [Otto?] von Grone, made the subject of a felony violation of feudal obligation, because of which his tenure of a baronial castle at Wittlage (Krietenstein) was taken away.
     The so-called Grothaus feud with the massacre in the Gehn[?] is the direct result of that.
     If you are interested, I'll send you the scholarly results of my research, proven with documentation. Next [will be] a register of those who took the oath among the Osnabrueck nobility.

     MfG[?] Josef Broeker
--

In a later email, Josef shared a copy of his work, titled  "Publikation 1984 von Grothaus" along with several other works he has collected.

Vivian Taylor has been working on translating and extracting anything which might be relevant or interesting to our search for Herman Groethausen's German roots. She has just shared a translated extract which was found in the source mentioned above.

The following is an extract from "Publikation 1984 von Grothaus" by Josef Broeker:

--
Page 313:  Family of Grothaus--without an addition [of an Estate Name] to the Name
 
     1. Hermann von Grothaus
     From the family of Grothaus, he is the first one who was mentioned in the Tecklenburg records.  In those, in fact, he functioned only as a witness (between 1402 and 1414).
     According to the evidence of the investiture books of the Osnabrueck bishops Heinrich von Holstein (1402-1404) and Otto von Hoya (1410-1424), Hermann von Grothaus was invested with, among others, manors in Mettingen and Lengerich (today, the Steinfurt district)--[manors] which previously Arnold and Hermann von Keseling had held in fief.
     Interesting in this connection is an entry in the Tecklenburg investiture book (Chronological Publications, F A Solms-Braunfels), according to which Hermann von Grothaus at that time obligated himself as a Tecklenburg fief holder and lord of the castle provided that the fief which the Keselings had held previously would be transferred to him by the Count of Tecklenburg.
     According to the evidence of the investiture books (F A Rheda and Solms-Braunfels), he was invested, from 1420 to 1428, with the [manor] Hoemoelle near Telgte and the [manor] Overenkamp near Westbevern.
     With that, the information about him in the records is exhausted, and important genealogical questions regarding his family, for example his blood-kin relationship to Johann von Grone and Cord von Grothaus, must unfortunately remain unanswered.
 
 Page 314:        Proof in the records [source citations]
         1402 Aug. 29       Reference Book A 190, No. 149    Muenster State Archive
         1402 without day  OGQ, Vol. V, page 72
         1412 without day  OGQ, Vol. V, page 104
         1412 without day  Tecklenburg Investiture Book        F A Solms-Braunfels
                                                                                     [Family Archive?]
         1412 April 30        Reference Book A 190, No. 175   Muenster State Archive
         1414 May 10        Reference Book A 190, No. 180   Muenster State Archive
         1420 without day  Tecklenburg Investiture Book        F A Rheda
         1428 without day  Tecklenburg Investiture Book        F A Rheda
--


Special thanks to Vivian Taylor for her help in translating Josef's email along with the extract from Josef's work, "Publikation 1984 von Grothaus".

As time permits, a PDF version of Josef's work will be made available in our European research collection, http://greathouse.us/library/families-eu/index.htm .


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Greathouse Lineage Project / Share Your Greathouse Lineage
« Last post by Rick on February 28, 2009, 11:47:30 AM »
If you are a Greathouse or have ancestors who were a Greathouse, please share your lineage back to the earliest Greathouse ancestor that you can document your lineage through by replying to this topic.

For example my lineage follows:

John Greathouse Senior m. Sarah " Sallie" McDade
..Edward "Ned" Greathouse m. Matilda Elizabeth Blosser
....Isaac Benjamin Greathouse m. Sarah Elizabeth "Sallie" Tanner
......Ervin M. Greathouse m. Effie Leveary Webb
........Paul "Dick" Greathouse m. Zadia Dale Price
..........Paul Richard Greathouse m. Sharon Kay Greathouse
............Richard Ivan Greathouse -> me


Thanks,
Rick
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Queries / Greathouse born in Clarksburg, WV
« Last post by LKLINE on February 27, 2009, 08:43:53 PM »
HI MY NAME IS LINDA FEATHERS MY MOTHER TOLD ME THAT HER FATHER WAS A GREATHOUSE  AND WAS BORN IN CLARKSBURG WV. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE CHANGED HIS LAST NAME TO DIX AND MOVED TO WINCHESTER VA IN THE 1930S. HE HAD 5 CHILDREN WHO WERE CLAUDE ,FORCE, MADGE, BERYL AND MY MOTHER HELEN HIS WIFES NAME WAS VICTORIA. I CAN;T GET ANY FUTHER WITH HIS SIDE BECAUSE OF THE NAME CHANGE. IF ANY ONE HAS ANY INFO ON THIS CLAN PLEASE E MAIL ME  THANKS
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