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| Summary Results It is our goal to make as much information as we can available to you with regard to progress, participation, and results on our Greathouse Surname Y-DNA project. We are requesting that each test participant provide their ancestry, as far back as they can. The results displayed for each participant represents the number of STR markers their Y-DNA was tested for, usually between 12 and 76 markers, which have been sorted by the Greathouse Participant ID#, assigned to each participant as they joined the project. Each participant is assigned a sequential number in order to insure privacy. We currently have Y-DNA results for 36 male Greathouse participants who have joined the project. Haplogroup I1 (Northern Europe) Twenty-three [23] of those participant's Y-DNA results place them in Haplogroup I1, which means that their ancient origins are in Northern Europe (Germany, Denmark, the Netherlands and Scandinavia). The ancestral baseline or modal haplotype for Herman Groethausen [born 1670, emigrated from Bielefeld, Ravensberg, Brandenburg, Prussia to Springfield, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA in 1710] was originally established by a majority of participant's Y-DNA results matching at 100% across 43 STR markers. Currently there are ten [10] participants whose Y-DNA results match the ancestral haplotype for Herman Groethausen at 100% across 43 markers. Additionally there are twelve (13) participants in this group, whose Y-DNA results vary by an allele repeat difference of one, on no more than four (4) markers, from the established modal haplotype for the group. All variations from the established modal haplotype are considered to be mutations from the ancestral haplotype. The last nine markers in the results table will only be available for participants who have tested with DNA Heritage or with Family Tree DNA's 111 marker test. Footnotes:
Conclusion: This proves that those participants are more than likely descended from Herman Groethausen, even though they can’t all document their lineage back to Herman, or one of his documented descendants. However, it is possible that they could have been descended from Herman’s father or grandfather, in which case, they would have been descended from uncles, cousins or nephews of Herman.
Haplogroup R1b (Western Europe) Five of our participants Y-DNA results place them into Haplogroup R1b, which means that their ancient origins are in Western Europe. One of these participants lives in Europe today and he is a descendent of Michael Groithausen born about 1690. Three of these participants live in the US. One is a descendant of William Greathouse and Charlotte McClendon. The other two are descendants of Samuel Greathouse and Susannah Greathouse. We had presumed that all American Greathouses were descended from Herman Groethausen. So why do these participant's Y-DNA results place them in Haplogroup R1b? There are several possibilities. One is that William and Samuel Greathouse could have descended from an American immigrant other than Herman Groethausen. Another is that there is a non-paternity event in this participant's past (e.g., adoption, name change, etc.). The participant representatives of William Greathouse and Samuel Greathouse share a Y-DNA match on 30/37 markers, which is suggestive that they do share a common ancestor, but probably many generations before their respective immigrant ancestors came to America. Testing of other direct line male descendants through different sons of both William Greathouse and Samuel Greathouse would be very useful in helping to solve this mystery. The third participant lives in the US, but isn’t sure of their Greathouse lineage.
Haplogroup G (Middle East) Three of our participant's Y-DNA results place them in Haplogroup G. They live in Europe, and are descendants of Otto von Grothaus born about 1492.
Haplogroup R1a (Eastern Europe) Two of our participant's Y-DNA results place them in Haplogroup R1a. Thy live in Europe.
Following is a Network Diagram, also called a Cladogram, which can be used to show DNA marker differences in a way that makes it easier to interpret the results that have been obtained. It can only be used on a group that consists of three or more participants that have a significant number of markers in common. So, at this time, we can only use it on the [Lineage I (Haplogroup I1 - Northern Europe)] group. Network Diagram for the Greathouse Surname Y-DNA Project
Always, the first feature to focus on is to see that the cousins from each ancestral line match up with each other. Each yellow circle in the network diagram represents one or more participants with matching DNA test results. Three of the participants in the large yellow circle have been tested on fewer markers than the typical 43 markers that we have been using for this project, but on the markers tested, there is an exact match. The participant id, is the number 001-018 for the participants. The family line that the participant comes from is represented by the color coded abbreviation in front of the participant id. The black codes, on the lines connecting the yellow circles, are the DNA test markers that show differences when making a comparison between two or more people. Since none of these participants differ by more than three markers, they all, very likely, share the same recent common ancestry, which is Herman Groethausen born about 1670 in Germany or a close ancestor of his . The largest yellow circle is the group that is represented by participants 001, 004, 005, 006, 013, 016, and 018. This group has the largest number of participants with identical test results. They all have exact matches on all markers tested. They represent the lines of: John Greathouse and Sarah Mc Dade; Jacob Greathouse of Georgia; Michael Greathouse and Debbie Snawder; Herman Groethausen, and a Greathouse Orphan. The test results of these people are currently considered to be the ‘ancestral haplotype’1 – the haplotype that defines the family line, because it is the largest group with identical test results. We would like to have at least two and up to four participants from each family group in order to firmly establish Herman Groethausen’s haplotype. From each line, at least two participants are needed. Non-paternity events (i.e., adoption, infidelity, etc.) occur at about 2-5% every generation, so having two or more participants per line is vital to ensure that the correct haplotype is obtained for a particular family line. As a general rule, the further back the common ancestor, the more participants are required. Participants 009 and 011 are both documented descendants of Herman Groethausen. They both differ by one marker from the ‘ancestral haplotype’. If the ‘ancestral haplotype is correct for Herman Groethausen, then somewhere between Herman and participant 009, a mutation occurred. If we had more cousins related to participant 009, we might be able to locate the ancestor where the mutation occurred. The same is true for participant 011. Participant 010 and 008 also differ on one marker each from the ‘ancestral haplotype’. Again with enough participants, we might be able to determine the ancestor where the mutation occurred. The same is true for participant 007. Participant 003, shares the S456a mutation with participant 007, but participant 003 shows two additional mutations. Participant 003 is a documented descendant of Harmon 1750, while participant 007 is a documented descendant of Harmon Greathouse 1787. It has been considered that Harmon 1750 might be the father of Harmon 1787. While they share the S456a mutation, the descendant of Harmon 1750 has two additional mutations that do not show up for Harmon 1787, as one would think they should if they are indeed father and son. Some DNA projects have hundreds of participants. As you can see, there is a lot more to be learned as we add participants to the project. DNA testing should only be used in conjunction with documented genealogy. Therefore the conclusions drawn are not absolute certainties, but the DNA evidence does give very strong support for the conclusions. These first results from these participants, shows that our genealogy research is on the right track, and that these participants are descended from Herman Groethausen, or a close ancestor/relative of his, even if they can not provide other documentation to prove it. 1 A Y-DNA haplotype is a set of 43
numbers. There is one number for each of 43 markers being tested in
the Greathouse Y-DNA Surname Project.
The haplotypes
of two or more individuals can be compared as a check on genetic relationship.
The ‘ancestral haplotype’, in this case, would be the haplotype
of
Herman Groethausen. Although Herman’s haplotype can not be ascertained
directly, it is inferred by a large number of descendant participants with matching
haplotypes.
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